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Verizon Wireless Stops Working For You

In a previous report about my telephony adventures I was still debating what to pick for my wireless carrier. Since I’ve already tried (and left) T-Mobile, Cingular and AT&T Wireless, this time around, I ended up going with Verizon Wireless.

Their Family Plan with shared minutes between multiple phones looked to be a perfect fit. It was within our budget and had just the right features. Nancy transferred her Cingular account over and got a brandy-new freebie LG phone in the bargain. I wasn’t quite able to afford a Crackberry just yet (which my cousin raves about) but I did settle on another wireless icon, a Motorola RAZR v3m (software revision NEWC_01.05.0A).

My favorite application, hands down, is VZ Navigator. It’s easy to use and makes excellent use of screen real estate with the phone opened or closed. Of course, with the $9 US monthly fee, before long, it may be worth getting something from Garmin for the car instead … but I digress.

From time to time I found myself snapping a few pix with the v3m’s built-in camera. Only this morning did I offer myself a free moment to connect the dots … and realize I should be transferring all these photos to my Mac! Good thing the v3m features Bluetooth and Object Exchange (OBEX) support for effortless file transfers.

Correction: Had OBEX support. It turns out with the Sprint-issued v3m (and other carriers) there is no such limitation. Verizon, on the other hand, apparently decided to disable/remove OBEX from their V3 series phones!

All I want to do is use something the v3m natively supports: OBEX over Bluetooth or USB. Preferably Bluetooth. Why make it harder on purpose? (The answer may have to do with Verizon wanting to force use of over-the-air transfers, which of course means an additional fee. Grrrr.)

When I confronted Verizon support with proof of the v3m’s native support of OBEX, regardless of the phone network, the response came well-rehearsed: “File transfer doesn’t work from the computer. You have to transfer files between your computer and Verizon’s network to get them on and off the v3m.”

(Pause. Huh??)

They continued: “Oh … and, uh, also, we had a group tech support meeting about this recently, about file transfers on the v3m phones. It’s a function of our network, and our network doesn’t support file transfers over Bluetooth.”

(‘nuther pause. Whaaaaaaat?!?!)

I protested. Bluetooth should just transfer directly to and from the phone. Verizon’s network should have nothing to do with it! Since when was Bluetooth developed with Verizon’s wireless network in mind? No matter, the rep wasn’t buying it. To him, Bluetooth might as well have been the same word as V-Cast.

After more long-winded banter with Verizon Wireless support and failing to get a hold of their Bluetooth experts-in-residence, I was put on hold a few times with no warning (thus it felt more like a customer conditioning “time out”), then conferenced with Motorola’s “Verizon department” … which, in the US, is 1-800-657-8909.

Motorola’s response was a surprise: You can use OBEX. You just can’t use the Bluetooth profiles on your PC or Mac. The solution? Simple. Just purchase a separate piece of hardware from Motorola: The PC850 Bluetooth USB Adapter!

(Longer pause. Whaaaaaaat?!?!)

According to the Motorola/Verizon rep, this PC850 dongle thingy supports Bluetooth Class 1 Version 1.2 and will automagically permit OBEX (and more) on Verizon v3m phones. The rep went on to say he tried the PC850 on Verizon’s network and was duly impressed. “It’s excellent. It allows a lot of protocols and things you wouldn’t be able to do otherwise. Definitely get it, this will solve your problem.”

All the while the Verizon rep was on the phone listening to this li’l bombshell. As I thanked the Motorola rep and opined that Verizon would find this info useful for other frustrated customers, the rep asked “um, what - what’s that model number again?” and then said he’d take the info back to his tech support team for further review. (So long as they don’t go and issue a v3m update that manages to neuter the PC850’s OBEX support.)

Regardless, if what Motorola claims about the PC850 is true, if their dongle can automagically allow OBEX over Bluetooth without any changes to my v3m, then why pray tell can’t a Mac or PC have its profiles changed and obtain the same exact functionality?

Or are both support reps full of hot air?

3 January 2007: Ken Krista kindly passes along these handy Verizon “Bluetooth Functionality” charts (PDF):

I wonder how much of this is askew from each device’s native, out-of-the-box behavior?

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Not surprising: I got the first Verizon phone with Bluetooth a few years back: the Motorola V710, and it was so crippled that Verizon was sued for advertising features that they turned off.

I chalk it up to Verizon’s greed. They see Bluetooth (and Wi-Fi) as competition, rather than as enticements.

Yup. Joe is right on the money. Verizon is the worst company in the world for Wifi functionality and Bluetooth devices and tech support criminalizes customers if they probe too far in attempts to get what they’re paying for. Verizon should be sued for misrepresenting their products and shut down all together. They operate on greed and greed alone. I wonder how many books are being cooked in this company and how many ex-Enron execs got hired to run the Verizon outfit? The only good thing going for them is their virtually flawless network with fewer dropped calls than T-Mobile. Perhaps its time to chuck my Verizon and Qwest services and go get a Cricket Phone, which is supposed to be the way to go for both home/mobile communications ( http://www.mycricket.com ) … My 2 cents.

So, did you get the USB Bluetooth device? Did it work as the represenative said? I can’t find any other confirmation that this USB Bluetooth adapter would indeed enable OBEX on the Verizon V3m?

Also, can you take pictures / video and save them to a microSD card and then read them directly with a memory card reader?

Thanks for any follow-up you may have.

Using verizon V3m with s/w version newc_01.05.0a The pc850 does not show the possibility of connection for obex transfers with this phone. Only shows audio and DUN, only after I enabled dun with seem editing

Still no OBEX? Bleah!

Perhaps it really is time for a Blackberry (shudder).

I have been a Verizon customer for about 3 years. First I got a Motorola phone that kept malfunctioning so after 2 years, they said I needed another phone and did not tell me I was eligible for an upgrade. So I went ahead and spent another $200 after I had spent the additional $200 for the first phone. This did not include the $50 a month for prepay as my credit was not good, so they denied me a contract. Now, I have a Samsung 630 which I have changed out 3x because the In Box keeps turning the phone off, and the battery gets hot. I went back into Verizon located on 100th Street, Lakewood, Washington, asking if I could change this phone again, and the manager said he would have to look into it. I have taken this phone back about 10x now, and would not recommend Samsung, or this store for service, and or products. This is my testimony and I hope you print it for all the world to see.

As a note from my previous post, I have been able to get bluetooth working with any adapter now. unfortunately doing so voids verizon’s warranty and return policies for the phone. Also, data services could potentially break too. I flashed the phone to alltel’s recently released firmware for the v3m. Technically, if done properly, the only thing you will lose is the broken bluetooth, and the ugly verizon UI/branding. However, if done improperly, can lead to creating a 200$+ paper weight. At this time, you should redirect your attention to these sites if you wish to learn more. hacktherazr.com howardfourms.com mark.cdmaforums.com

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